Ripped off says 20p but was 20g - Guild Wars Forums

Lord Bong · Aug 24, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56

when i sold a item,it said 20p, but when trade ended it was saying 20g,now if he can do that to me,anybody can get scammed from him,can that player get banned from gw - game???

Mandy Memory · Aug 24, 2005, 02:59 PM // 14:59

check it before you get accept

DFrost · Aug 24, 2005, 02:59 PM // 14:59

If I understood correctly, you were selling an item for 20 plat but accidentally accepted his offer which was 20 gold? Sorry, but there isn't really anything you can do.

Everyone, pay attention when trading, there are a lot of people that like to do this.

ayb · Aug 24, 2005, 03:01 PM // 15:01

why would he get banned because you're too careless to check the trade window thorougly? pay better attention next time.

Lord Bong · Aug 24, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

no, its was saying 20p, so i HIT ACCEPT, then on screen it said 20g, players name - ARCK ANIA ,he did it to sum other boy 5 mins later.

NOW THATS CHEATING... SO DOES OR CAN HE GET BANNED, NOT RIPPING ME OFF,GW MUST BE ABLE TO SEE PLAYERS NAMES

Lord Bong · Aug 24, 2005, 03:05 PM // 15:05

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Originally Posted by ayb

why would he get banned because you're too careless to check the trade window thorougly? pay better attention next time.

CHEERS MATE, DONT THINK WE ALL DONKEYS AT THIS GAME

M. Jaden · Aug 24, 2005, 03:10 PM // 15:10

There's no cheat that changes traded gold value after you accept the trade. He just changed it to 20g right before you pressed accept, happens =/

Lord Bong · Aug 24, 2005, 03:15 PM // 15:15

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Originally Posted by M. Jaden

There's no cheat that changes traded gold value after you accept the trade. He just changed it to 20g right before you pressed accept, happens =/

well if it happens should it not be stopped, thats cheating people out off the game,1st time i heard off this,just makes you treat all traders as scammers, no trust

ayb · Aug 24, 2005, 03:21 PM // 15:21

if you hit accept and he changes it you have to hit accept again. so his trickery aside it's still ultimately up to you to make sure what you're buying. just like back when people would try to sell dye remover as red dye.

Kuku Monk · Aug 24, 2005, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Welcome to the game of life.

Algren Cole · Aug 24, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by M. Jaden

There's no cheat that changes traded gold value after you accept the trade. He just changed it to 20g right before you pressed accept, happens =/

when refering to a computer never use the term "there is no"...there is always a way.

ayb · Aug 24, 2005, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by Kuku Monk

Welcome to the game of life.

hey look! i've got a wife!

LifeInfusion · Aug 24, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

lmfao. That was spam, ayb.

Anyway, I think the original poster must have been mistaken. You always check before hitting accept right after someone has changed their items/cash value.

Santanus_Perro · Aug 24, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53

Yes, there are unethical, immoral people that play this game. That is why due diligence is key. The OP got taken because of lack of due diligence. It is his/her own fault. Learn from this.

Dazzler · Aug 24, 2005, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Just posing a hypathetical...what if someone created a mouse/key macro that would quickly hit "modify offer" then type in 20g, then "submit offer" and "accept offer". If the macro went quickly enough and they timed it right (got lucky), then after you had decided it was okay and moved your mouse towards "Accept", they might hit the macro, causing the screen to flash for a sec but you might not see it happen or might not be able to tell your hand not to click in time and you click and presto you just go screwed.

Maybe it only works 1 in 50 attempts? But that is plenty for it to be a lucrative thing for a scammer to do.

So, yes, what the OP is claiming would indeed be possible. Whether or not this has happenned is something that cannot be proved given the evidence he has presented.

This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run.

DarkWasp · Aug 24, 2005, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

Just posing a hypathetical...what if someone created a mouse/key macro that would quickly hit "modify offer" then type in 20g, then "submit offer" and "accept offer". If the macro went quickly enough and they timed it right (got lucky), then after you had decided it was okay and moved your mouse towards "Accept", they might hit the macro, causing the screen to flash for a sec but you might not see it happen or might not be able to tell your hand not to click in time and you click and presto you just go screwed.

Maybe it only works 1 in 50 attempts? But that is plenty for it to be a lucrative thing for a scammer to do.

So, yes, what the OP is claiming would indeed be possible. Whether or not this has happenned is something that cannot be proved given the evidence he has presented.

This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run.

First you would need a 1gps Internet connection, and a mouse tracker on the trader computer, not happening.

Torkemada · Aug 24, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Its hard i know, its anoying too...

but "live and learn". Next time you are gonna be more carefull. Also look at the glass half full. You traded a 20k item and not a Crystal Sword.

I was selling ectos the other thay a pack for 35 plat. The first buyer did the "change" offer move to 35 gold. I kindly told him he was mistaken, and canceled the trade.
Before i could count to 3, he was gone from the district lol, and i was on his ignore list.

There is no rush in selling, if its a real trader, it will leave you more than enough time to re-check your trade. If the guy is rushing you, you are better finding a new buyer/seller.

ayb · Aug 24, 2005, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by Dazzler

This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run.

thats why i never ever sell anything out in the world. i always say "talk to me after we finish the mission / kill insert boss name here. cant drop items on ground in town = don't have to worry about that.

Paine · Aug 24, 2005, 05:20 PM // 17:20

owned...

Jeddak · Aug 24, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

It's a pain to be scammed for sure but unless the scammer is using some illegal process to cheat you then it just comes down to his word against yours. At least you can learn from your mistake and that is something the scammer will most likely never do and as most of us know: what goes around comes around.

Aug 24, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56	#1
Lord Bong Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/W	Ripped off says 20p but was 20g when i sold a item,it said 20p, but when trade ended it was saying 20g,now if he can do that to me,anybody can get scammed from him,can that player get banned from gw - game???

Aug 24, 2005, 02:59 PM // 14:59	#2
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	check it before you get accept

Aug 24, 2005, 02:59 PM // 14:59	#3
DFrost Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ultima Thule Guild: Legacy of Echovald [Echo] Profession: P/	If I understood correctly, you were selling an item for 20 plat but accidentally accepted his offer which was 20 gold? Sorry, but there isn't really anything you can do. Everyone, pay attention when trading, there are a lot of people that like to do this.

Aug 24, 2005, 03:01 PM // 15:01	#4
ayb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: WTS SOUL PST Guild: Order of the Fly Profession: Mo/R	why would he get banned because you're too careless to check the trade window thorougly? pay better attention next time.

Aug 24, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04	#5
Lord Bong Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/W	no, its was saying 20p, so i HIT ACCEPT, then on screen it said 20g, players name - ARCK ANIA ,he did it to sum other boy 5 mins later. NOW THATS CHEATING... SO DOES OR CAN HE GET BANNED, NOT RIPPING ME OFF,GW MUST BE ABLE TO SEE PLAYERS NAMES

Aug 24, 2005, 03:10 PM // 15:10	#7
M. Jaden Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago Profession: E/Me	There's no cheat that changes traded gold value after you accept the trade. He just changed it to 20g right before you pressed accept, happens =/

Aug 24, 2005, 03:21 PM // 15:21	#9
ayb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: WTS SOUL PST Guild: Order of the Fly Profession: Mo/R	if you hit accept and he changes it you have to hit accept again. so his trickery aside it's still ultimately up to you to make sure what you're buying. just like back when people would try to sell dye remover as red dye.

Aug 24, 2005, 03:22 PM // 15:22	#10
Kuku Monk Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: Me/E	Welcome to the game of life.

Aug 24, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47	#13
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	lmfao. That was spam, ayb. Anyway, I think the original poster must have been mistaken. You always check before hitting accept right after someone has changed their items/cash value.

Aug 24, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53	#14
Santanus_Perro Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scott Township, PA Guild: Iron Rangers Profession: W/Mo	Yes, there are unethical, immoral people that play this game. That is why due diligence is key. The OP got taken because of lack of due diligence. It is his/her own fault. Learn from this.

Aug 24, 2005, 03:56 PM // 15:56	#15
Dazzler Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Profession: E/Me	Just posing a hypathetical...what if someone created a mouse/key macro that would quickly hit "modify offer" then type in 20g, then "submit offer" and "accept offer". If the macro went quickly enough and they timed it right (got lucky), then after you had decided it was okay and moved your mouse towards "Accept", they might hit the macro, causing the screen to flash for a sec but you might not see it happen or might not be able to tell your hand not to click in time and you click and presto you just go screwed. Maybe it only works 1 in 50 attempts? But that is plenty for it to be a lucrative thing for a scammer to do. So, yes, what the OP is claiming would indeed be possible. Whether or not this has happenned is something that cannot be proved given the evidence he has presented. This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run.

Aug 24, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57	#17
Torkemada Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Argentina Guild: EC - The Epic Crusade Profession: Mo/Me	Its hard i know, its anoying too... but "live and learn". Next time you are gonna be more carefull. Also look at the glass half full. You traded a 20k item and not a Crystal Sword. I was selling ectos the other thay a pack for 35 plat. The first buyer did the "change" offer move to 35 gold. I kindly told him he was mistaken, and canceled the trade. Before i could count to 3, he was gone from the district lol, and i was on his ignore list. There is no rush in selling, if its a real trader, it will leave you more than enough time to re-check your trade. If the guy is rushing you, you are better finding a new buyer/seller.

Aug 24, 2005, 05:20 PM // 17:20	#19
Paine Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Clan Plus [Plus]	owned...

Aug 24, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24	#20
Jeddak Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Blood Feud Profession: E/Mo	It's a pain to be scammed for sure but unless the scammer is using some illegal process to cheat you then it just comes down to his word against yours. At least you can learn from your mistake and that is something the scammer will most likely never do and as most of us know: what goes around comes around.